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Battery pack cell configuration calculator

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DIY battery pack building has become very popular lately, and many beginners run into the question of how best to arrange the cells in a pack to get the maximum capacity.
Today I’ll show you a handy calculator for working this out.

A while ago, a friend sent me a link to a handy calculator that, as it turned out, was little known. I thought it over and decided not only to add it to the blog, but also to translate the interface into Russian to make it easier to use.

Some of you may have noticed the link to it in the sidebar. Today I’ll explain how to use it, and along the way, why it’s important to match cell capacities in the first place.

Let’s start with a pack of four cells connected in series. This is straightforward: in this configuration, the pack’s capacity will always equal that of the weakest cell, which in this case is 800 mAh.


Of course, you can improve things a little with active balancers. I’ve covered them in detail several times, for example here, here or here. I highly recommend checking them out.


These balancers can redistribute energy between cells, charging weaker ones using energy from cells with a higher state of charge.


But battery packs are often built with cells connected in series-parallel, and in these packs the situation can be partly corrected.
Let’s take the same set of cells and connect them in a 4S2P configuration, where S means cells connected in series and P means cells connected in parallel. This notation can describe any pack. For example, the battery shown in the photo heading consists of two 15S2P modules, so its voltage is 15 × 3.7 V and its capacity is 2 × 2500 mAh.
If you connect the cells any old way, you won’t get anything good, of course.


And as they say, “that’s not how we do things”—although, actually, it is how we do things. But why waste valuable battery capacity, shuffle charge around, or limit yourself when you can simply arrange the cells in the pack more efficiently?
Open the calculator and start by entering all the capacity values shown above.


Click “Add cells” and go to the tab where you set the battery configuration and cell voltage. In this example, that’s 4S2P and 3.7 volts.


Click “Generate packs” to get a calculated arrangement, with the cells grouped in pairs. Each pair is a parallel section of the pack; you then connect these pairs in series.
The total battery capacity in Ah and Wh, as well as its voltage, is also shown here.


But this layout isn’t very convenient to work with, so you can switch the display to “compact mode.”
It also shows how far the capacity of each parallel group deviates from the overall average.


Build the pack according to the calculation. The order in which you connect the resulting parallel groups doesn’t matter; what matters is the parallel sections.
The result is a 2200 mAh pack made from the same cells that gave us just 1600 mAh above. As they say, profit!

It’s worth noting that it’s always best to use cells that are as identical as possible. But for low discharge currents, cells with a much wider spread in capacity are perfectly acceptable—as long as you arrange them so that the capacity of each parallel section is as close as possible.


But let’s look at an example closer to real-world use: building a battery pack for a power tool.
We buy a nice case with a protection board. I recommend this one for 10 18650 cells. Packs for 10 × 21700 cells are becoming popular now, for example these, but the protection board in those is heavily stripped down.


Prepare the cells. For example, buy 12 “to be on the safe side,” measure their capacities, and enter them in the table. These values are just examples; I don’t remember the actual cell capacities anymore.


Set the battery configuration—in this case, 5S2P. By the way, I’m often asked about the maximum current of batteries. Here I explained this in detail. In short, the larger the pack—for example, 5S3P—the less demanding the requirements for maximum current.


The battery calculation is complete. The calculator has set aside a couple of cells that won’t help achieve maximum efficiency in this case.
The battery capacity in this example is 5.867 Ah, or 108 Wh.


Connect the cells by spot welding or soldering, following the calculation.


You can also mark cells you’ve already found and set aside—for example, if you have a whole lot of them.


You can also export the results as a CSV file (although that seems to work a bit wonkily), or simply copy them to the clipboard and print them to a TXT file. Very handy.


Calculate, assemble, stick on the labels, and you’ve got the most efficient battery possible. Here’s a tip: you can use the same method to match cells by internal resistance—just enter the impedance value instead of capacity :)


This calculator will be especially useful for anyone building a battery pack for electric vehicles, where packs tend to be much larger.
Also, remember that when measuring battery capacity, it’s important to keep the test conditions consistent, since even the air temperature can have a significant effect on the result.

That’s all. I hope this was useful, and may your batteries last as long as possible :)
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  1. 4 August 2022 14:51#1
    прошу пояснить:
    1. каким образом подбираются пакеты сборок? (алгоритм?)
    2. каким образом вычисляют отклонение между емкостью аккумуляторов в сборке?

    есть ли возможность подобного для вычисления например в excel ?
    -1
    1. 4 August 2022 17:16#2
      1. в параллельных группах подбираются аккумуляторы чтобы получить некую среднюю емкость, например более емкие соединяются с менее емкими чтобы каждая такая сборка имела максимально одинаковую емкость в сравнении с другими параллельными сборками.
      грубо, если имеем аккумуляторы на 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 и 6Ач и хотим сделать сборку 3S2P, то получим:
      1+6=7Ач
      2+5=7Ач
      3+4=7Ач
      Общая емкость сборки 7Ач

      Если соединять неправильно, то получим например
      6+5=11Ач
      4+3=7Ач
      1+2=3Ач
      Общая емкость 3Ач

      Надеюсь логика понятна.

      2. Математика, считаем среднее значение и вычисляя отклонение от него.

      Не знаю, скорее всего можно.
      +2
      1. 4 August 2022 18:37#3
        с логикой в п.1 понятно, но как это сделано? что применяли в программе когда она комплектует пакеты?
        по п.2 - пробую в excele и вот тут возникла проблема - не могу понять как сделать, так как данные в программе и в excele не совпадают.
        +1
  2. 4 August 2022 20:34#4
    с п.2 разобрался
    с п.1 даже не знаю с чего начать.
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  3. 7 February 2023 21:14#5
    Почему-то они считают по разному, комбинации и порядок не совпадают. Кому верить?

    https://cellsaviors.com/pack-builder    

    https://www.repackr.com/#/pack-builder    


    Еще один калькулятор, помогает подобрать BMS https://cellsaviors.com/bms-picker

    Этот подсказывает правильную толщину ленты https://battery.market/battery-configurator/

    Пользуйтесь smiley
     
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    1. 8 February 2023 00:13#6
      Никому нельзя верить, мне можно :)
      Посмотрю позже, спасибо. Вообще странно, там ведь просто математика.
      +1
      1. 9 February 2023 02:52#7
        Возможно скорректировать для сортировки по внутреннему сопротивлению? Чтобы результат был в полученном общем внутреннем сопротивлении параллельной сборки и в общем по акб?
        +1
        1. 13 February 2023 20:24#8
          В принципе можно просто вместо емкости вбить сопротивление, калькулятор подберет сборки так чтобы оно было одинаковым на секцию. Но лично на мой взгляд если оно болтается +\- не сильно, то лучше смотреть на емкость.
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          1. 18 February 2023 05:24#9
            А что критичнее, разница емкости в параллели или последовательно ?
            0
            1. 18 February 2023 11:26#10
              При параллельном включении разница в емкости вообще не принципиальна, а вот при последовательном вы получите общую емкость батареи равную емкости самого слабого звена.
              +3

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