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Makita Power Tool Battery Charger

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As I mentioned before, along with the BL1850 and BL1860 batteries, I also received a charger for them. At first, I hadn't even planned to review it, but I tested it while checking the batteries, took it apart, and decided it was probably worth writing about after all.

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To get ahead of myself, I liked the charger, although, as always, there are a few caveats, which I'll get to at the end of the review.
The charger costs $16.80, but unfortunately the shipping cost spoils the deal: it's about $10.50, bringing the total to around $27.
This is the third review in the series. I previously wrote about the BL1850 and BL1860 batteries.

It comes in a neat little box with no printing. The package includes a power cable and a manual. Several plug types are available, and naturally I chose the European one.


To be honest, when I ordered it, I thought it would be a bit smaller, and I was surprised by its size when I unpacked it.


In the middle are a couple of LEDs indicating the operating modes, and... that's it.


On the left and right are some explanations about the sound signals, various melodies and so on, but when I tested it, it turned out to just beep. I love these ordinary beeping devices, with no melodies, light shows, etc.
In practice, I heard only two types of sound signals: a single beep when plugged into the mains, and a triple beep at the start and end of charging. That's it.


There are lots of possible operating-mode indicators, but I saw only a few:
1. flashing green - no battery installed
2. steady red - charging
3. steady red+green - supposedly indicates 80% charge
4. steady green - fully charged

I don't know how it determines the third mode, but in reality, if anything, only 1-2 minutes pass between the third and fourth modes.


On top are a sliding protective cover, the power contacts, and the system connector.


The power cable socket and a label with basic specifications. The stated charging current is 3 A.


There's nothing else interesting on the outside, so we'll continue our search inside. We remove the four self-tapping screws and lift off the top cover. By the way, it's quite conveniently designed: I didn't even have to disconnect the battery while measuring temperatures.


The first thing I noticed was the neatly routed cables. The wiring harness is neatly bundled with a cable tie so it doesn't flop around.


The circuit board is white. That doesn't affect anything, of course, but it looks neat. The board layout is very open, which should help with cooling.


1. The input has a full filter, with a fuse, thermistor, and varistor—in short, everything as it should be.
2. The input capacitor is 100 µF, which is more than enough for the stated power of 63 W.
3, 4. The high-voltage transistor and output diode assembly are mounted on heatsinks.


And this, as I understand it, communicates with the battery controller and actually manages the charging modes, since the charger is designed for batteries with different voltages.


The underside of the board is clean and neat. I'm always amazed by how many components there are in modern chargers. It made me think of the old chargers: a transformer, a bridge rectifier, a handful of components, and that's it.
Actually, yes, I don't quite understand why they have to be so complicated. Surely all this could be done more simply? It seems to me that some chargers are gradually approaching the complexity of a decent bench power supply.


PWM controller
Op-amp, presumably amplifying the shunt signal
Some transistors, I think for disconnecting the battery when charging is complete.


Here are a few photos of other chargers for comparison.
First, an older version of the original charger. I couldn't find its rated current, but it's claimed to charge a 3 Ah battery in 45 minutes, which means the current is around 5 A.


A newer version, with charging current up to 9 A. By the way, this one and the previous one both have a fan, but it's for cooling the battery, not the charger. The batteries I showed also have ventilation holes, incidentally.
Personally, I think 9 A is quite a lot, and it will only work properly (with airflow) with 3P batteries. Though I don't know, maybe it automatically reduces the current for smaller batteries.


And for comparison, here's the inside of a cheap Chinese charger, the kind with an LCD screen. I think many of you have seen these already.


In the review, I mentioned that both the battery and the charger have a system connector. I've been asked several times whether the battery balancing contacts are brought out there. No, they aren't. Enthusiasts have looked into this, and even tried to figure out the protocol, though they were actually trying to solve the battery lockout problem. In the end, some concluded that it was easier to buy a Chinese board.



As I already mentioned, the green LED flashes when there's no battery, and it stays red while charging. By the way, when I took the charger apart, I immediately stuck a piece of electrical tape over the buzzer so it wouldn't beep so loudly. It's much better now: you can still hear it, but it doesn't get in the way.

I didn't measure the charging current, because during the battery tests I found that:
1. It charges a 5 Ah battery in 1 hour 35 minutes
2. It charges a 6 Ah battery in 1 hour 55 minutes
And since the battery capacities are known, we can see that the claimed 3 A is there.

I also found that during a normal charging cycle, it charges the battery to 20.9–21.0 V. If you remove and reinsert the battery after charging is complete, it charges it to about 21.2 V. The difference in capacity is around 80–90 mAh, so I recommend using the normal procedure: insert it, charge it, remove it.
For example, after balancing, I topped up the battery—in other words, I tried to charge an already charged battery—and got 4809 mAh.


Then I charged it again, but in a single session, without topping it up, and got 4714 mAh. Without balancing, the battery delivered 4708 mAh in the same test, which, incidentally, indicates that it was in pretty good shape to begin with.
As I mentioned, I only found this out near the end of the tests, so there's some measurement error, since I'm used to my battery testers always charging the same way.



The battery is held in the charger by the standard latch, so it's hard to remove without pressing it. And yes, it could use rubber feet; that would make it more convenient.



While it was charging, I took a few thermal images. I shot them near the end of the charge, when the current was still at its full value but the voltage was close to the maximum—or, more accurately, right at the end of the CC phase.


It was hotter inside, of course. You can see that most of the heat is concentrated around the output diode assembly.
1. Overall view
2. High-voltage transistor
3. Output diode assembly.

The transformer was at around 80 °C, so the temperatures are perfectly reasonable, especially since this isn't a power supply that might run in this mode for days or weeks on end.


Then I thought: I have a DIY battery pack, after all. It doesn't look quite as nice anymore, but I haven't used it all that much.


It cost me over $45 at the time, if I remember correctly: 10 VTC6 cells at €3 each, plus a case with a board for about $12, plus shipping. The cells were new, high-quality ones from NKON.


I thought, why not measure its capacity? But I ended up doing two experiments.
The first was a self-discharge test. The last time I charged this battery was either in July (8 months ago) or at the end of March (almost a year ago). I thought I’d put it on charge, then run a test and measure its capacity. But in less than half a minute, the charger beeped to say everything was OK, deciding the battery was fully charged.
The second test was for capacity.
I connected it to the tester, set the discharge current to 1C, and got 5873 mAh before the cutoff at 12.5 V, or 5741 mAh with the cutoff set to 13.74 V.
Yes, this battery is almost a complete copy of the original, right down to the lack of a power protection circuit against over-discharge. This is exactly what I talked about in my battery reviews: using a battery like this with a “Makita-compatible” tool that has only two contacts is unsafe for the battery. For example, both of my screwdrivers have only two contacts, while my angle grinder has three, so in this case the battery can send a command to the tool.

But that’s not the point. Here’s an example of a battery with genuine, high-quality cells that still doesn’t deliver the expected 6 Ah.


By the way, this battery’s charge indicator lights up while it’s charging, which is very convenient.



And now for the conclusions.
As for the charger, all I can say is that I’m completely satisfied with it. Some people may like lots of indicators or a fancy musical accompaniment, but I didn’t need any of that. Two LEDs and a buzzer are perfectly fine: put the battery in and let it charge until it beeps three times.
I have no complaints about the charging current, or the charging itself, really. If you charge it in one go (without topping it up afterward), it leaves the battery slightly undercharged, which is perfectly fine too: the battery will last longer, and the difference in capacity is minimal.

Whether to buy one is a tricky question. On the secondhand market, you can sometimes get a genuine one for a similar price. They’re sold by people who buy tool kits, leaving them with a spare charger. But there are a few things to watch out for: sometimes you can end up with a 100–115 V version that you’ll have to modify, so be careful. I ordered the one reviewed here simply because it was sent to me as a bonus, and honestly, it’s more than good enough for me.

So far, it has fully charged the battery about 25 times and is still working fine. Looking at how it’s put together, I think it’ll keep working. At least it’s definitely better than the chargers “with a little screen,” though not as good as the genuine ones that can cool the battery while charging. Then again, the charging current here isn’t high enough to heat the battery noticeably, so it may even last longer with this charger.

That’s it for batteries and chargers for now. I’ve had a new board lying around for ages to convert a power supply into a UPS, so I’m off to solder it :)
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  1. 26 April 2023 18:22#1
    Получил из Китая две батареи, обе заряжены на 3/4
    Одну включил в ЗУ –– зарядилась без приключений (красный + зеленый, зеленый, музыка)
    Вторую -- горит красный светодиод, прогресса заряда не наблюдается
    Вопрос: на что обращать внимание в АКБ когда разберу? )
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    1. 26 April 2023 19:24#2
      При этом обе работают на инструменте нормально?
      Для начала я бы спросил продавца, что он скажет на это.
      Ну а для себя, разобрал бы батарею и посмотрел на предмет плохой пайки и т.п. Дело в том, что заряд и разряд идет через разные цепи и разные силовые ключи, через большие разряжает, через мелкий заряжает, второй находится недалеко от клемм, в обзоре я по моему про него писал.
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      1. 26 April 2023 21:49#3
        На инструменте не проверял еще, по вольтажу 18.7 где-то
        С продавцом уже пообщалсся, ничего интересного
        Я же так понял, что ЗУ нет смысла особого разбирать -- второй аккумулятор то зарядило вполне успешно, а вот с АКБ посмотрим что там... :)
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        1. 28 April 2023 14:08#4
          Промежуточный итог
          Заряд на каждой ячейке составлял 3.7 вольта, на вид батарея ОК
          Думаю, неужто проблема в бмс-ке?
          Подсоединил параллельно вторую батарею -- заряд выровнялся, все 4 диода на плате индикатора светятся. Значит, не бмс
          Сегодня поставил батарею, которая изначально была полностью заряжена (батарея 1) (с которой переливал ток в "проблемную"(батарея 2) ) -- поведение то же: красный диод...
          Есть у меня версия, что зарядное недозаряжает, если батарея почти полностью заряжена, а изначально батарея 1 была больше разряжена, чем батарея 2 (хотя индикация была 3/4 заряда на обеих).
          Надо разрядить теперь, чтоб проверить теорию )
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          1. 2 May 2023 15:18#5
            @kirich не помните, напряжение на клеммах зарядного должно быть 21 на холостом ходу? У меня 15.8 выдает, подозреваю потому и не заряжает уже ничего (батареи разрядил, зарядка не идет) 
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            1. 2 May 2023 15:31#6
              Там вполне может быть напряжение и ниже чем 21 вольт, зарядное ведь не просто cc/cv, потому полное появится только если подключить батарею.
              Вечерком измерю ради интереса.
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            2. 4 May 2023 13:28#7
              Проверил напряжение на силовых клеммах зарядного без подключенной батареи, у меня там 0, вернее что-то болтается близкое к нулю, но этим можно пренебречь.

              Что у вас в итоге, пробовали разрядить?
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              1. 4 May 2023 13:32#8
                Разрядил: поведение все то же: индикация зарядка (красный диод), тепло не заметил чтоб выделялось, напряжение на клеммах акб не поменялось 
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                1. 5 May 2023 16:18#9
                  @kirich похоже, пора писать негативный отзыв на странице товара :)

                  Разобрал вчера зарядное, ожидаемо, внешне все хорошо (плата слегка отличается от вашей)
                  Напряжение ЗУ на холостом ходу: 15.7
                  Напряжение на клеммах АКБ: 16.4
                  При подключении АКБ: звуковой

                  При подключении АКБ: звуковой сигнал, красный светодиод, напряжение на клеммах зарядного - 16.4
                  После получаса-часа работы: напряжение не изменилось, нагрева элементов на плате не обнаружено

                  Добавлю пару фото платы, вдруг вам будет интересно (ну и мутно же сделано добавление картинок :) )
                   

                     
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                  1. 5 May 2023 19:16#10
                    Конечно пишите отзыв с фото, с батареями как я понимаю все нормально, а вот зарядное кардинально другое и скорее всего с просто режимом CC/CV, потому и не заряжает.
                    У того что в обзоре есть полноценное отключение и т.п.
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  2. 8 September 2024 20:23#11
    Підкажіть, будь ласка, скільки коректна ось така робота зарядки - відео на youtube

    Ззовні дуже подібна зарядка, ось тільки начинка інша. Видно просто "оптимізували".
    На скільки я розумію, то зарядка має відбуватись по алгоритму CC/CV, а тут зарядка йде струмом 3А, потім падіння до 1А, тоді знову 3А і так по колу.
    Можна було б сказати, що це бракований екземпляр, але це друга зарядка такого типу. По першій виграв спір надавши таке відео. Подумав, що це брак і замовив ще одну. І знову така ж історія.
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    1. 24 September 2024 01:31#12
      Не вижу в этом ничего криминального, допускаю даже что так и должно быть, т.е. снижаем ток на небольшое время, смотрим за напряжением, если оно занижено, то опять ставим полный ток.
      Но это просто предположение. Не могу понять. аккумулятор фирменный?
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  3. 24 September 2024 20:45#13
    Не могу понять. аккумулятор фирменный?

    Ні, це збірка на основі корпусу з AliExpress і акумуляторів з nkon. Але це не вплив батареї. Пробував заряжати її за допомогою ToolkitRC M7, підключав ще для перевірки мультиметр в режимі вимірювання струму, то все ОК - заряджає тим струмом, який виставлено, струм не скаче під час зарядки.
    Може це і нормально, просто раніше ніде про таке не чув і не читав. Тому і задаюсь питанням на скільки це безпечно.

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    1. 13 October 2024 12:27#14
      Я бы забил, допускаю что это нормально, для более точного понимания придется разбирать и изучать что там в качестве контроллера заряда.
      +1

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